#2255 closed defect (fixed)
ZAK256: Italian Translation doesn't start
| Reported by: | SF/licantrop0 | Owned by: | fingolfin |
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| Priority: | normal | Component: | Engine: SCUMM |
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| Cc: | Game: | Zak McKracken |
Description
Recently, an active group of Italian translators, has translated the FmTowns version of Zak McKraken. Here is the patch: <http://www.oraparloio.org/ust/index.php? ind=downloads&op=entry_view&iden=4> (click on "Scarica File")
The problem is that with ScummVM 0.7.1 stable, the game start without problems, except this message:
Looking for zakTowns Trying to start game 'Zak McKracken and the Alien Mindbenders (FM-TOWNS)' Unknown MD5 (d7681f89ea70da03ad3717d34e24271f)! Please report the details (language, platform, etc.) of this game to the ScummVM team WARNING: o5_resourceRoutines 36 not yet handled (script 34)!
If I try to load the same game with ScummVM 0.8.0 (last CVS Build), here is the critical error that I display:
Looking for zakTowns Trying to start game 'Obsolete Target' WARNING: Target upgraded from zakTowns to zak! Unknown MD5 (d7681f89ea70da03ad3717d34e24271f)! Please report the details (language, platform, etc.) of this game to the ScummVM team Unknown magic id (0xFE08) - this version is unsupported!
and ScummVM closes itself.
then, if I try to load again with the Stable version 0.7.1, here is a new error:
Looking for zak Trying to start game 'Zak McKracken and the Alien Mindbenders' Unknown MD5 (d7681f89ea70da03ad3717d34e24271f)! Please report the details (langu age, platform, etc.) of this game to the ScummVM team (0:0:0x0): Unknown magic id (0xFE08) - this version is unsupported!
and ScummVM closes itself.
Note that now the Game ID is "zak" and not zakTowns! That is the big problem!
Thank you very much for your work, i love ScummVM and you guys are fantastic.
Ticket imported from: #1326581. Ticket imported from: bugs/2255.
Change History (19)
comment:1 by , 19 years ago
| Summary: | Italian Translation of Zak FmTowns do not start → Italian Translation of Zak FmTowns doesn't start |
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comment:2 by , 19 years ago
| Summary: | Italian Translation of Zak FmTowns doesn't start → ZakTowns: Italian Translation doesn't start |
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comment:3 by , 19 years ago
comment:4 by , 19 years ago
| Owner: | set to |
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| Resolution: | → invalid |
| Status: | new → pending |
| Summary: | ZakTowns: Italian Translation doesn't start → ZAK256: Italian Translation doesn't start |
comment:5 by , 19 years ago
| Status: | pending → new |
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comment:6 by , 19 years ago
With your workaround works fine with 0.8.0 CVS (yea!), but not with 0.7.1, givin' same error :(
However, thanks for the advice! :)
This Italian translation is maded very well, either more than original one. Please, try to support it!
Regards, Licantrop0
comment:7 by , 19 years ago
0.7.1 isn't supported anymore. We're gearing to new release. See http://www.scummvm.org So hopefully in less than 2 week you will have it in stable release.
comment:8 by , 19 years ago
| Status: | new → closed |
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comment:9 by , 19 years ago
I have to kindly disagree: Of course we do support 0.7.1, we'd be a strange project if we didn't support our own latest stable release anymore :-). However in case of bugs we usually do refer to the latest (potentially unstable) CVS builds.
In this particular case, the config file "format" has changed in the latest versions; hence after you used the CVS version, the config file was upgraded, this is why 0.7.1 doesn't work for you anymore.
As for the italian translation: well it may be good, I don't doubt that, but we do not usually support anything but official game titles; fan translation aren't something we actively support. However, we do not intend to actively block them, either, which is why we added the target_md5.
Still, I think we could be a little bit more "friendly" towards such fan mods of the FM-TOWNS games, by adding a couple checks (like, "IF game == zak AND platform == fmtowns AND md5 unknown THEN assume it is ZakTowns and setup everything accordingly". What do you think, Eugene?
comment:10 by , 19 years ago
| Owner: | changed from to |
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| Resolution: | invalid |
| Status: | closed → new |
comment:11 by , 19 years ago
Yes, we could do that, it's a matter of adding yet another table ooh. Which would be the list now? All FM-TOWNS titles? And is that pre- or post- release feature?
Saying 'do not support' I mean that we aren't going to fix any bug there, but anyway :).
comment:12 by , 19 years ago
This is a feature for the next major release, I'd say. And it's not only needed for FM-TOWNS, it's needed for *all* games...
In most cases, the target name plus (optionally) the platform & language are fully sufficient for us to run. In those cases where it isn't, we can still do what we do now (i.e. abort, though maybe with a nice alert telling the reasons).
I.e. if target = comi -> no need to know the MD5, platform, lang if target = zak -> need to know platform & lang; we can already distinguish V1/V2 If target = monkey -> we need to distinguish EGA, VGA, CD. The CD version is V5, the others are V4, so we can distinguish them. Oh an dhte SEGA/FM-TOWNS versions are unique, too, of course. Not sure if we can automatically distinguish EGA/VGA, but that might be possible, too.
This is maybe not a matter of just adding a simple table, but it's the price you have to pay for unifying the target names. See Engine_SCUMM_detectGames for some starting points on how to distinguish SCUMM games w/o MD5.
comment:14 by , 19 years ago
| Owner: | changed from to |
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comment:15 by , 19 years ago
Fingolfin, I guess you'll handle it with your brnad new detection helper code?
comment:16 by , 19 years ago
OK, this should work much better now, at least in theory. In particular, zak for FM-TOWNS can easily be distinguished from the 'regular' zak.
Licantrop0, I would very much appreciate if you could do some testing for me: Could you (at least temporarily) remove any target_md5 config entries / files from your system and then try to (a) detect your italian Zak FM-TOWNS, and (b) try to run it ?
comment:17 by , 19 years ago
With 0.8.2 stable, do not works (detecting and running) With 0.9.0 26 Apr, it worsk perfectly without md5!!! :D
now I have problems with Original Loom CD Italian Version... maybe I have to open a new bug...
comment:19 by , 19 years ago
| Resolution: | → fixed |
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| Status: | new → closed |
Generally, custom localizations aren't officially supported by us.
However, there is a workaround: you can specify a custom target_md5 manually in the config file. Just add target_md5=2d4536a56e01da4b02eb021e7770afa2 to the config entry for your italian zak, and it should work again. Does it?